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You can make a port work a lot like a series, and you mostly did 
with the virtual block scheme. FOREACH and PARSE not working on ports 
can be a bit annoying, but they would only work on a subset of the 
port types that either work like series or (theoretically) like files 
(like open/direct file ports in R2).

REBOL does not return an accurate error msg when failing to find 
a DLL file:

>> lib: load/library %xyz.dll
** Access Error: Cannot open xyz.dll as library
** Near: lib: load/library %xyz.dll


This can be misleading thinking that %xyz.dll exists but is invalid, 
while it doesn't exists at all. So for the people having issue with 
%temp.dll, check if the DLL is present in the working folder and 
that you have correctly CD to that folder in your REBOL session.

Doc, quick license question: Was the BSL chosen because it allows 
you to distribute a binary without requiring that you distribute 
the license, unlike MIT and almost all other open source licenses? 
Would it be a problem if you incorporated Apache licensed code, which 
doesn't distinguish between source or binaries in this? You probably 
wouldn't have to actually include the license with the product, only 
in a web site or help file somewhere...

I don't know if I am using it correctly but I attempted to run the 
build.r file (w/o any arguments...I think it builds the "eval.red"). 
I end up with:
Signing apk...
'jarsigner' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Aligning apk...
Unable to open 'builds\eval-signed.apk' as zip archive

Generating apk...
/bin/bash: builds/tools/aapt: Bestand of map bestaat niet
Signing apk...
jarsigner: unable to open jar file: builds/eval-unsigned.apk
Aligning apk...
/bin/bash: builds/tools/zipalign: Bestand of map bestaat niet
...all done!

Robert, good job. I've been trying to open the test file, assuming 
that's necessary, but clicking on open does nothing for me.

Speed function crashed on my Huawei M865C:

Access error: cannot open %tmp-junk.txt   reason: -3
Where:  write unless do foreach speed? 

Near:  write file: %tmp-junk.txt  "" tmp: make string! 32000 * 5 
ins...

Hello MaxV: Congrats to your first R3GUI app! ;-) I have some questions/notes 
though:

1. Why one needs to download the two DLL files to get R3B running?? 
(not much user friendly IMO)


2. On your Blog page you say: "First of all there are some bugs, 
most of them depends on R3GUI, for example this one: https://github.com/angerangel/r3bazaar/issues/8"

I bet this is not related to R3GUI at all but more to your R3B build. 
The REQUEST-FILE works without any problems in our Saphirion build 
(and I think also the "official" Carl's build works well but haven't 
tried it). I tried to download and run your R3B binary and I can 
confirm the bug is related only to this version so it would be fair 
enough if you remove your R3GUI blaming from the blog entry if possible. 
I know R3GUi is not perfect so maybe you can just change the blame 
for some other which is really related to the framework. Or better 
feel free to ask any questions in RgGUI group here!

3. I've looked into the EDITOR function code and comparing to the 
R3 editor code (which is still twice as big as the R3GUI version 
- but I don't know if they match the features though) the R3GUI code 
looks much cleaner and abstracted that the R2 style even if you are 
not expereienced writing R3GUI apps. Some notes:


3.1 I'm curious why are you accessing the internal AREA style value 
like face/names/tb or aa/names/tb/state/value? Is that for some reason? 
Why you don't use the AREA directly like:
do-actor/style face 'on-key arg 'area
instead of
do-actor/style face/names/tb 'on-key arg 'text-box

or

write (to-file AA-INFO/OPTIONS/text-edit) get-face aa


write (to-file AA-INFO/OPTIONS/text-edit) aa/names/tb/state/value 


3.2 There is "classic" but anoying bug. If you open file requester 
and close it without selecting a file the editor errors out. (but 
you probably already noticed)


3.3 Would be great if you add keyboard shortcuts. It's easy to add 
them. See the layouts-15.r3 file in R3GUI Saphirion package as an 
example.


3.4 Maybe you could try to write your first R3GUI style - MENU It 
would be handy in the editor(and also in other apps) instead of the 
buttons on top.


Anyway, thanks for promoting R3 and R3GUI. I appreciate all your 
efforts!

beginner question:
i'm opening a file using
    d: open/direct/lines %bigfile.nt
i am then looping through each line using:
    while [ln: first d] [ ;do something here ]

i need to record the byte position of the start and end of each line...
how?

this works for me on free version of View: (XP)

sound-port: open sound://
play: func [file] [
 wait sound-port
 clear sound-port
 insert sound-port file
 wait sound-port
]

now getting this:


./rebol: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory


any experience running rebol-view on aws? looks like some libs/headers 
are missing...

Thanks for the welcome back message.
 

 I left off asking about the mySQL driver. So I want to insert into 
 a database a random number the code already generated and associate 
 it with an email address that was provided by a CGI form. Have yet 
 to create this in the real world but for now let us assume I will 
 call the database "customers". The people who process the credit 
 card and collect the email address advised me that the address will 
 be labelled "trnEmailAddress".


 After finding the mySQL driver Here is what I figured out using placeholders 
 for things like password, etc. Would appreicate knowing if this is 
 correct.

; Loads MySQL driver
do %mysql-driver/mysql-protocol.r
; Opens connection to MySQL server
db: open mysql://[[user][:pass]@]host[:port]/database


; Send query to database server. Enters random number from above. 
customers is probably the name of the database I will create

insert db ["INSERT INTO customers VALUES (?,?)" "trnEmailAddress" 
"token"]



 Next I need to insert an existing PDF file (an e-book) into a directory 
 created by the script. The directory will be named after a random 
 number that was earlier generated by the script. I am astounded that 
 I can not find the command to copy a file. So the variable assigned 
 to this random number is called "token".

 So I have the following.

make-dir %token/


 How do I copy a file into this new directory? Also, is that the corecct 
 way to make a directory?

Or differently, has anyone worked with excel files via ODBC, using 
either R2 or R3? I tried Graham's code, which works for .xls files, 
but not .xlsx files. When I convert my file to .xls, R2 returns - 
not enough memory :-(

p: open [
     scheme: 'ODBC

     target: "Driver={Microsoft Excel Driver (*.xls)};DriverId=790;Dbq=c:\path-to-file\file.xls"
]
conn: first p
insert conn "select * from [Sheet1$]"
result: copy conn

open your prefs.txt file and set:
sound-new-message: %wavefile.wav
It must be a simple wav format, not a compressed format.

I think of communication software a little differently (in general), 
so I will share this.  

Read states

 (like the Red we are talking about) are a very interesting issue. 
  


Most computer software does a very poor job of replicating empirical 
or visceral conversations.  Email for example has a method of describing 
the "direction" you are speaking.  TO: Bob, CC: Carry.  Where the 
TO: indicates you are speaking directly to Bob, and that Carry is 
standing somewhere to the left or right of you.  BCC is someone hiding 
behind you. 


Email could have an interface where you first pick the people in 
the "room." And then use something like a 2D interface to move the 
listeners around a symbolic version of you.  This would be both silly, 
time consuming, and somewhat confusing, but you get the point.


What you have read and what you have not read though has a similar 
analogy.   There are thousands of sub states and markers people use 
to sort things they have read, will read, need to read again, need 
to respond to, etc.


In Box, Out Box, Papers upside down, putting papers you need to sign 
under your car keys on the floor in front of the door leading to 
the car, etc.


I have one friend who re-wrote some open source email program to 
have some huge number of states and then some simple filters.  It 
works VERY WELL, if you know his system.  He never forgets anything.


So the current model AltME has (right now) is a very simple interface. 
 Tantimount to "Have I ever seen this before."


We are playing with some other models in Qtask, which may get adopted 
into AltME.  I'm working on a system I call Venn Chat.  Some features 
include:

Have I read this before? (like AltME)
Mark this:  

Follow up (add to a list of messages you want to think about more)
Note (All should read this when they come into the group)
All Must Read (converts it into an AltME-like alert)


Convert to a task (and keep the context of the chat in place, this 
is opens up a whole other area)
Branch (something like forum threading)
Re-file (move from one group to another)

Re-post (copy to another group, at the same time, similar to branch).
Trigger (tell me when someone has finally read this).
Status (tell me who has read this so far).
Attach (files, links, etc)

Download failed for Syllable Inc./Marketing/De_Graaff_OSS_adoptiegedrag_van_ondernemers_webversie.pdf 
because write-failed - Is the file open or in use?

anton:


1. on Machine A, an XP box, I create a bat file and add it to my 
file sharing list on my world

2. on Machine B, also an XP box, I open AltME on that same world 
with the same user account and notice that a new file is ready for 
download.
3. on Machine B, I click it and it downloads.

4. on Machine B, I click it again, and it immediately opens a DOS 
shell window and runs.

execve("../rebol2558042", ["../rebol2558042"], [/* 18 vars */]) = 
0
uname({sys="Linux", node="dino.local", ...}) = 0
brk(0)                                  = 0x809b000

old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, 
-1, 0) = 0x40017000

access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)

open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 7
fstat64(7, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=51977, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 51977, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 7, 0) = 0x40018000
close(7)                                = 0

access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
open("/lib/tls/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY)    = 7

read(7, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2405\0"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(7, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=141236, ...}) = 0

old_mmap(NULL, 139712, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 7, 0) = 
0x40025000

old_mmap(0x40047000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
7, 0x22000) = 0x40047000
close(7)                                = 0

access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
open("/lib/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)    = 7

read(7, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\200X\1"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(7, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1270908, ...}) = 0

old_mmap(NULL, 1281292, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 7, 0) = 
0x40048000

old_mmap(0x40176000, 36864, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 
7, 0x12d000) = 0x40176000

old_mmap(0x4017f000, 7436, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, 
-1, 0) = 0x4017f000
close(7)                                = 0

old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, 
-1, 0) = 0x40181000

set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0x401812a0, limit:1048575, 
seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, 
useable:1}) = 0
munmap(0x40018000, 51977)               = 0

rt_sigaction(SIGCONT, {0x804b6c4, [CONT], SA_RESTART}, {SIG_DFL}, 
8) = 0

rt_sigaction(SIGTSTP, {0x804b67c, [TSTP], SA_RESTART}, {SIG_DFL}, 
8) = 0

rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x804b700, [INT], SA_RESTART}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) 
= 0

rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x804b700, [TERM], SA_RESTART}, {SIG_DFL}, 
8) = 0

rt_sigaction(SIGHUP, {0x804b700, [HUP], SA_RESTART}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) 
= 0

rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x804b718, [CHLD], SA_RESTART}, {SIG_DFL}, 
8) = 0
socketpair(PF_UNIX, SOCK_DGRAM, 0, [7, 8]) = 0

clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, 
child_tidptr=0x401812e8) = 21686
close(8)                                = 0
brk(0)                                  = 0x809b000
brk(0x80be000)                          = 0x80be000
brk(0)                                  = 0x80be000
brk(0)                                  = 0x80be000
brk(0x80eb000)                          = 0x80eb000
brk(0)                                  = 0x80eb000
brk(0x810c000)                          = 0x810c000
ioctl(0, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0
ioctl(0, TCSETSW, {B38400 opost isig -icanon -echo ...}) = 0

open("/etc/termcap", O_RDONLY)          = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
write(1, "R", 1)                        = 1

stat64("/home/volker/d/t/rebol.r", 0xbffff11c) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)

stat64("/home/volker/rebol.r", 0xbffff11c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)

stat64("/home/volker/d/t/user.r", 0xbffff11c) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)

stat64("/home/volker/user.r", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3086, 
...}) = 0
time([1105173013])                      = 1105173013
open("/home/volker/user.r", O_RDONLY)   = 8
fstat64(8, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3086, ...}) = 0
time([1105173013])                      = 1105173013
read(8, "REBOL [\n    Title: \"%~/user.r\" \n"..., 3086) = 3086
close(8)                                = 0

Note the: open("/etc/termcap", O_RDONLY)          = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)

Regarding Carl's last blog, I guess rebcmd25125 is the pre-release 
version.
I am testing the Win version with my scripts since a few days.
Recently I saw  some error messages I saw never before.


The script is reading periodically from a remote drive via UNC with 
	load join work.dir [isodate work-date ".log"]
where 
	work.dir:  %/REMOTE/D$/DATA/
and 
	isodate: func [x] [..]  
producing something like "20050705".

Before I saw error messages like 
	Access Error: Cannot open /REMOTE/D$/DATA/20050705.log
	Where ...
	Near: load join work.dir [isodate work-date ".log"] 
 , if the file was not accessible.


This time the error messages were different after running for some 
time ,  e.g.
	Near: load join work.dir [ isodate 5-Jul-2005 ".log"]
or 
	Near: load join wor[isodate work-date ".log"] 

Has anyone seen something simlar ?

Linux 1.3 Beta -> startup reports this -> 

** Access Error: Cannot open /home/usersx/.rebol/view/desktop/filetypes.r
** Where: init-desktop-files
** Near: write path join {REBOL [Title: "File Types"]
} mold/only
>>

also, it's not that /direct does not work; it does, always has, in 
that it does not buffer. the problem is that it does not allow seeking, 
i.e. it only allows sequential access. so you can open a 2GB file, 
as long as you read it sequentially.

I just found a file that I can READ but not OPEN a port to. This 
bug can be seen on old and new versions of Core 
and View:
>> read %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"

== {ID3^C^@^@^@^@^F^NTMED^@^@^@^D^@^@^@DIGTLEN^@^@^@^G^@^@^@472006TCON^@^@^@^E^@^@^@miscTRCK^@^@^@^B^@^@^@5TALB^@^@^@^\^@^@^@Psych
o...
>> port: open %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"
** Access Error: Cannot open /j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
** Near: port: open %/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
>> port: open/binary %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"
** Access Error: Cannot open /j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
** Near: port: open/binary %/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
>> read/binary %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"
== #{
4944330300000000060E544D454400000004000000444947544C454E00000007
00000034373230303654434F4E000000050000006D6973635452434B0000...

#4124 "set-modes doesn't work on file directories" - maybe add a 
note to Paul here that "the filesystem may not support setting all 
of the modes that are gettable by get-modes. For instance you can't 
set modification-date, but you can set the owner-write flag." Maybe 
there should be a more informative access error type, not just "Cannot 
open ...".

you open in the modelviewer the hellpig.md2 file and tada you can 
playback the animation

//-------------------------------------------------------------
//- Load
//- Loads an MD2 model from file
//-------------------------------------------------------------
bool CMd2::Load(const char * szFilename)
{
	unsigned char * ucpBuffer = 0;
	unsigned char * ucpPtr = 0;
	unsigned char * ucpTmpPtr = 0; 
	int iFileSize = 0;
	FILE * f;
	
	if(!(f = fopen(szFilename, "rb")))
	{
		APP->Log(COLOR_RED, "Could not open MD2 file %s", szFilename);
		return false;
	}

	//check file size and read it all into the buffer
	int iStart = ftell(f);
	fseek(f, 0, SEEK_END);
	int iEnd = ftell(f);
	fseek(f, 0, SEEK_SET);
	iFileSize = iEnd - iStart;

	//Allocate memory for whole file
	ucpBuffer = new unsigned char[iFileSize];
	ucpPtr = ucpBuffer;

	if(!ucpBuffer)
	{

  APP->Log(COLOR_RED, "Could not allocate memory for %s", szFilename);
		return false;
	}

	//Load file into buffer
	if(fread(ucpBuffer, 1, iFileSize, f) != (unsigned)iFileSize)
	{
		APP->Log(COLOR_RED, "Could not read from %s", szFilename);
		delete [] ucpBuffer;
		return false;
	}

	//close the file, we don't need it anymore
	fclose(f);

	//get the header
	memcpy(&m_Head, ucpPtr, sizeof(SMD2Header));

	//make sure it is a valid MD2 file before we get going
	if(m_Head.m_iMagicNum != 844121161 || m_Head.m_iVersion != 8)
	{
		APP->Log(COLOR_RED, "%s is not a valid MD2 file", szFilename);
		delete [] ucpBuffer;
		return false;
	}
	
	ucpTmpPtr = ucpPtr;
	ucpTmpPtr += m_Head.m_iOffsetFrames;

	//read the frames
	m_pFrames = new SMD2Frame[m_Head.m_iNumFrames];
	
	for(int i = 0; i < m_Head.m_iNumFrames; i++)
	{
		float fScale[3];
		float fTrans[3];
		m_pFrames[i].m_pVerts = new SMD2Vert[m_Head.m_iNumVertices];
		//expand the verices
		memcpy(fScale, ucpTmpPtr, 12);
		memcpy(fTrans, ucpTmpPtr + 12, 12);
		memcpy(m_pFrames[i].m_caName, ucpTmpPtr + 24, 16);
		ucpTmpPtr += 40;
		for(int j = 0; j < m_Head.m_iNumVertices; j++)
		{

   //swap y and z coords to convert to the proper orientation on screen

   m_pFrames[i].m_pVerts[j].m_fVert[0] = ucpTmpPtr[0] * fScale[0] + 
   fTrans[0];

   m_pFrames[i].m_pVerts[j].m_fVert[1] = ucpTmpPtr[2] * fScale[2] + 
   fTrans[2];

   m_pFrames[i].m_pVerts[j].m_fVert[2] = ucpTmpPtr[1] * fScale[1] + 
   fTrans[1];
			m_pFrames[i].m_pVerts[j].m_ucReserved = ucpTmpPtr[3];
			ucpTmpPtr += 4;
		}
		
	}

	//Read in the triangles
	ucpTmpPtr = ucpPtr;
	ucpTmpPtr += m_Head.m_iOffsetTriangles;
	m_pTriangles = new SMD2Tri[m_Head.m_iNumTriangles];
	memcpy(m_pTriangles, ucpTmpPtr, 12 * m_Head.m_iNumTriangles);

	//Read the U/V texture coords
	ucpTmpPtr = ucpPtr;
	ucpTmpPtr += m_Head.m_iOffsetTexCoords;
	m_pTexCoords = new SMD2TexCoord[m_Head.m_iNumTexCoords];
	
	short * sTexCoords = new short[m_Head.m_iNumTexCoords * 2];
	memcpy(sTexCoords, ucpTmpPtr, 4 * m_Head.m_iNumTexCoords);

	for(i = 0; i < m_Head.m_iNumTexCoords; i++)
	{

  m_pTexCoords[i].m_fTex[0] = (float)sTexCoords[2*i] / m_Head.m_iSkinWidthPx;

  m_pTexCoords[i].m_fTex[1] = (float)sTexCoords[2*i+1] / m_Head.m_iSkinHeightPx;
	}
	
	delete [] sTexCoords;

	//Read the skin filenames
	ucpTmpPtr = ucpPtr;
	ucpTmpPtr += m_Head.m_iOffsetSkins;
	m_pSkins = new SMD2Skin[m_Head.m_iNumSkins];
	
	//Load textures
	for(i = 0; i < m_Head.m_iNumSkins; i++)
	{
		memcpy(m_pSkins[i].m_caSkin, ucpTmpPtr, 64);
		//hack off the leading parts and just get the filename
		char * szEnd = strrchr(m_pSkins[i].m_caSkin, '/');
		
		if(szEnd)
		{
			szEnd++;
			strcpy(m_pSkins[i].m_caSkin, szEnd);
		}

		m_pSkins[i].m_Image.Load(m_pSkins[i].m_caSkin);
		ucpTmpPtr += 64;
	}
		
	delete [] ucpBuffer;
	return true;
}

How to set correctly progress function for read-net? Or what causes 
following error and :                                            
                >> myProgr: func [ tot bt ] [ print bt / tot ]

>> read-net/progress to-url "http://maps.dnr.state.mn.us/cgi-bin/mapserv36?map=/usr/loca

l/www/docs/mapserver_demos/tests36/expressions/test.map&map_counties_class_expression=(%

5bAREA%5d %3e 7577272785.15339)&layer=title&map_title_class_text=Counties+Larger+Tha
n+Itasca+County&mode=map" :myProgr
0.425625
** Script Error: not is missing its value argument
** Where: read-net

** Near: all [:callback size not callback size length? buffer data: 
true break]
not data
>> source read-net
read-net: func [

    {Read a file from the net (web). Update progress bar. Allow abort.}
    url [url!]

    /progress callback {Call func [total bytes] during transfer. Return 
    true.}
    /local port buffer data size
][
    vbug ['read-net url]
    if error? try [port: open/direct url] [return none]

    size: to-integer any [port/locals/headers/content-length 8000]
    buffer: make binary! size

    set-modes port/sub-port [lines: false binary: true no-wait: true]
    until [
        if not data: wait [60 port/sub-port] [data: true break]
        if data: copy port/sub-port [append buffer data]

        all [:callback size not callback size length? buffer data: true break]
        not data
    ]
    close port
    if not data [buffer]
]
>>

In Command:
>> help run
USAGE:
    RUN file /as suffix
DESCRIPTION:
     Runs the system application associated with a file.
     RUN is a native value.
ARGUMENTS:

     file -- The file to open (file, URL) or command to run (string). 
     (Type: file url string)
REFINEMENTS:
     /as
         suffix -- (Type: string file)

run will call a native application to open the file in question eg. 
acrobat reader for pdf files.

It is only enabled on IOS .. I have asked RT why it can't be enabled 
for the sdk as well.

you mean  "file seek"   or  "open/skip".

Now that we have open/seek, is there some way to compute a check 
sum on a large file by reading it in part by part ?

have run repack-core.r, then call "explorer .", double-click %qml-ed.r, 
"save html", saved with requester, an alert "Error saving file: Cannot 
open /C/Dokumente und Einstellungen/BN/Anwendungsdaten/rebol/public/www.rebol.org/library/public/template.html"

as usuall, type the following in a rebol console to open up the tool.

do http://www.rebol.org/library/public/repack.r


also note that I put a lot of effort in optimizing the file's final 
size, including a lot of hacking out, removing comments, compressing, 
etc... its now a much smaller download.

We are glad to announce that a newer version of the rebol.org package 
downloader is now available for people using REBOL|view 1.3.2

as usuall, type the following in a rebol console to open up the tool. 
it now adapts to version automatically
<pre>do http://www.rebol.org/library/public/repack.r</pre>

also note that I put a lot of effort in optimizing the file's final 
size, including a lot of hacking out, removing comments, compressing, 
etc... its now a much smaller download.
This version uses a slick 
new version of GLayout which has gfx largely based on Henrik's tests 
which he supplied a few weeks ago...

If there was a standard REBOL library that could open *any* common 
zip format, then yes: it'd be easy to accept a zip upload and turn 
it into a package.
Otherwise, it'd be a support headache.
***

The current method of uploading package files (via a browser interface) 
is itself a headache. But (this is where I toss the ball back to 
you Maxim), LDS (the Library's API) supports package file uploading. 
So *you* could write an easy package assembly routine to run on the 
contributor's computer. Problem solved!

Of the various editors / word processors I have immediately to hand:

-- credit.exe -- [my usual editor] shows incorrect chars, and has 
no option to switch to UTF-8

-- open office writer -- works fine if you take the UTF-8 option 
when asked
-- ms word -- claims file is corrupt
-- word perfect -- makes a complete mess

-- R2/View's built in editor ( editor %/c/path to my local copy//ascii-math.r) 
-- shows incorrect chars

I just tried  a script download under Windows:

-- when I selected "save to disk" it was saved as a *.r file as I';d 
expect
-- when I selected "open with notepad" it got named *.r.txt"

Basically I am writing to ask something ... I am newbie at writing 
rebol bindings. This binding if it works it works but if almost anything 
goes wrong it simply crashes. For example missing some file, not 
going into TEXT mode , not oppening closing something, page reference 
insted of pdf doc reference given to some function in binding .. 
pdf that we intend to write being locked (alredy open in acrobat)... 
ETC ... 


I intend to write this robust now, so I am asking how is this usually 
done? I can check for preconditions before talking to binding at 
runtime in rebol. Another (better) option is that binding shouldn't 
just crash for anything that goes wrong. I saw in docs something 
about error messages as return, so maybe I am doing something wrong 
in the first place , for example not implementing or setting up some 
callback for errors... Anyone more experienced than me? Rebol Haru 
could be quite capable otherwise, it supports all things that are 
really messy to do in PDF (encodings, embedding fonts, images, encryption, 
graphics, ...).

One thing is that I can check for these preconditions at runtime,

It may be a recurrence of a problem parsing " at the beginning of 
a line -- doesn't seem to be a problem on the beta that I have open 
(1.2.54).  As an alternative, you could always read/lines, or simply 
load the file...

f: open/direct file
a: copy/part f 4096

parse a [some [rule1 | rule2 | b: if (if a: copy/part f 4096 [b: 
join b a]) :b]]

So if you copy your test data to the clipboard, you would assign 
it to a variable like this:
obx: read clipboard://

If you are reading it from a file with the read or open functions, 
there is no escaping.

Hi, all: anyone has succeeded to run the beta version of View 1.3 
on Fedora Core 4? I have the following error: error while loading 
shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: 
No such file or directory

IIRC depending on the desktop manager you use, you can open icons 
with a shell automatically.  and can ask the manager to hide the 
shell until the app bums out.  look into the icon's properties... 
This might also only be an option for .r file associated icons themselves 
(not rebol, but for script with an icon).

I get following error message with my old Fedora Core install. I 
can't run SDK (dated 2.8.2006) rebols, it throws following error 
to the console:


/usr/local/rebol-sdk-cmd/bin/rebcmd: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such 
file or directory

The filename "syncro.r" indicates that this file is of type "r document". 
The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain 
text document". If you open this file, the file might present a security 
risk to your system.


Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received 
the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file 
to the correct extension for "plain text document", then open the 
file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a 
specific application for the file.

The Open Source community took an emotional hit when veteran Linux 
programmer Hans Reiser was convicted of first degree murder. How 
will this verdict impact the technology in play for Linux file system 
dominance?  

HELP w/ web rebol associations AND Rebol-View.
Here is the story..


On my PC, I have View pointing to an index.r file on my web server.
Everything is cool.

When I open up Rebol-View and traverse to my index.r on the server..
it works.


Now on the same server, I change the IIS-Web associations so that 
I can do rebol CGI.
I create a 'main.r' in some virtual directory on the server.
Web-ing to this http.//myserver/mydir/main.r   works GREAT!
CGI is working.


However, when I now open up Rebol-View on my local PC and traverse 
to my index.r which is
on the server.. I get an error.


The problem is that before.. rebol-view was requesting a file-download 
and the server sends it.

Now since IIS is doing '*.r' CGI, when rebol-view requests for the 
index.r download.. the server is processing the request
and attempting to send back html.. not a rebol file.


Is there any way of fixing this other than..

* changing the CGI association from '*.r' to something else  (ie. 
'*.rr')

* changing all my view-apps on the server from '*.r' to something 
else   (ie. '*.rr')
??

change-dir %blogs/
foreach file read %. [
		port: open file
    set-modes port [
        world-read: true
        world-write: true
        world-execute: true
    ]
    close port
]


But with my tired mind, and the no end of 500 errors, I must be forgetting 
something.

You shouldn't need to open a file port to set-modes, just set-modes 
%file.r [... modes ...]

Windows keeps track of all the programs used to open a particular 
file extension. Just right click the script then choose:

	Open With | Choose Program


and browse select the file you want to open it with (checking the 
"Always use ..." option if you want to permanently associate it). 
Thereafter, this file is displayed whenever you right-click and bring 
up the "Open with" menu. On my system I have multiple REBOL versions 
and editors available so I can easily choose how I want to open a 
script.


Anton: if your .R scripts are associated with your editor, how do 
you run them? Console session and do?

Open/skip will be very helpful to allow file resume in Cheyenne.

Rebol's open source xml parsers are not fully complete.  Where is 
the full XML file that the fragment comes from?

Ahhh so much to learn and not enough time!!!  Thanks for your patience
Ok, on to another issue.


I have a text file as a printable report that contains several pages 
within it.  Each line can be as large as 132 columns wide (or less).

- The literal  "    Page " will begin in column 115 and that indicates 
the start of a printed page.


I want to write a script that will read this text file one-page-at-a-time, 
so I can do some processing on the page.


How do I write a script to load in a single "page"?  I am guessing 
that I need to open a PORT and have rebol read all the lines until 
I get "....Page." in bype position 115.

Any suggestions?

Hi Anton -- This is my simulated input for a unicode text file:
	Line1...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
	Line2...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
If I run this code:
	InFile:		%"Small In unicode.txt"

 InText:	rejoin extract read InFile 2	; Convert from UNICODE to ANSI 
 but keeps double spacing.
	OutFile:	%"Test Out.txt"
	write OutFile InText
	print InText	
I get these results
	ÿLine1...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
	
	Line2...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
	

I get them in the output file when I use the Rebol editor, and in 
notebook (when I open the file) and I get them in console when PRINT 
InText.

At first, I thought it just be some stray bytes comming from the 
AS400, but I was able to re-create a file using Notebook and get 
same results.
Any of you should be able to test this out by:
1.  Open Notebook
2.  Type in some text
3.  Save the file with Encoding to UNICODE

In-port:	open/lines In-file
 while [not tail? In-port] [
	print In-port
	In-port:	next In-port
	]

 close In-port

I want to upload file on ftp. 
I know I can do it like this:
write/binary ftp://user:[pass-:-website-:-com] read/binary %file

Or I am supossed to do it.... it just wont let me....


>>  write/binary ftp://user:[pass-:-ftp-:-site-:-com] read/binary %file.txt
** User Error: Cannot open a dir port in direct mode

** Near: write/binary ftp://user:[pass-:-ftp-:-site-:-com] read/binary %file.txt

I can read the contents of ftp rootdir with:
print read ftp://ftp.site.com/


But writing is not working.... What does it mean: "Cannot open a 
dir port in direct mode"?

Ftp problem again.... everything was working perfectly from march 
till now.... we changed internet provider yesterday and my scripts 
dont work any more :(
Here is the core of script where error is:

server: ftp://user:[pass-:-ftp-:-firm-:-com]/data
file: %file.zip
from-port: open/binary/direct lokal/:file
to-port: open/binary/new/direct server/:file

** Access Error: Network timeout
** Where: confirm
** Near: to-port: open/binary/new/direct server/:file

Trace/net  did gave more info:

Its not my new internet provider... :)  its our old router used in 
a new way... :)
This is the message I get...
Username... pass.... OK.... and then:
Net-log: "Opening listen port 2655"
Net-log: [["PORT" port/locals/active-check] "200"]
Net-log: "200 PORT command successful"
Net-log: [["CWD" port/path] ["25" "200"]]
Net-log: "250 OK. Current directory is /apl"
Net-log: "Type: new"
Net-log: ["TYPE I" "200"]
Net-log: "200 TYPE is now 8-bit binary"
Net-log: [["STOR" port/target] ["150" "125"]]
Net-log: "Closing cmd port 2652 21"
Net-log: "Closing listen port 2655"
** Access Error: Network timeout
** Where: confirm
** Near: to-port: open/binary/new/direct server/:file

user name is "visaprom.com"
Total commander is set up simply...
use passive is ON...
here is what is happening with ftp/passive: true:

Net-log: "215 UNIX Type: L8"
Net-log: ["PWD" "25"]
Net-log: {257 "/" is your current location}
Net-log: ["PASV" "227"]
Net-log: "227 Entering Passive Mode (194,9,94,127,235,183)"
Net-log: [["CWD" port/path] ["25" "200"]]

this is where it pauses and then:

Net-log: "Closing cmd port 3565 21"
** Access Error: Network timeout
** Where: confirm
** Near: to-port: open/binary/new/direct server/:file

to-port: open/binary/new/direct server/:file

URL Parse: visaprom.com password ftp.visaprom.com none apl/ ik104.zip
Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "FTP"]
Net-log: [none ["220" "230"]]

Net-log: {220---------- Welcome to Pure-FTPd [privsep] [TLS] ----------}
Net-log: "220-You are user number 188 of 400 allowed."
Net-log: "220-Local time is now 11:33. Server port: 21."
Net-log: "220-This is a private system - No anonymous login"
Net-log: {220-IPv6 connections are also welcome on this server.}

Net-log: {220 You will be disconnected after 15 minutes of inactivity.}
Net-log: [["USER" port/user] "331"]
Net-log: "331 User visaprom.com OK. Password required"
Net-log: [["PASS" port/pass] "230"]
Net-log: {230-User visaprom.com has group access to:  www     }
Net-log: "230 OK. Current restricted directory is /"
Net-log: ["SYST" "*"]
Net-log: "215 UNIX Type: L8"
Net-log: ["PWD" "25"]
Net-log: {257 "/" is your current location}
Net-log: ["PASV" "227"]
Net-log: "227 Entering Passive Mode (194,9,94,127,216,138)"
Net-log: [["CWD" port/path] ["25" "200"]]

here is command with error:
to-port: open/binary/new/direct server/:file
** Access Error: Network timeout
** Where: confirm
** Near: to-port: open/binary/new/direct server/:file

Q: (note - my view may be influenced by insufficient knowledge in 
the area given) - last weeks I played with wrapping some Win32 functions. 
I started discussion on dll.so channel, to ask developers, if they 
would enhance interfacing to C libraries in some way, and there was 
few ideas appearing. We currently have also rather strange callbacks 
support (limited to 16) and I would like to ask, taking into account 
that DLL interface in Rebol was not changed/enhanced since it appeared 
long time ago, if RT sees any area in which it could be made more 
robust, developers friendly etc.?


A: We are planning to do a lot more on DLLs. In fact, future versions 
of REBOL will expand on the way DLLs are used in REBOL.   For example, 
I would like to see DLL support for media loaders and savers, so 
if we do not directly support a specific type of media file (say, 
TIFF) then an external DLL can be provided to load it.  There are 
a few other DLL related features down the road, but it is still a 
bit early to talk about them.



Q: I realize that the open sourcing of the viewtop wasn't that successful, 
but do you still intend to keep releasing newer versions of it? AFAIK 
the current release is over a year old. I've experienced a lot of 
obvious bugs in the viewtop editor, which I think can easily be solved 
by people outside RT.


A: yes we will continue to release newer versions.  View 1.3.2 fixed 
a number of bugs in the Viewtop editor that were listed in on RAMBO. 
Any fixes and enhancements from the community are greatly appreciated 
(by everyone, not only RT!)  You can post them to RAMBO, and we will 
review and include them (if they look good).



Q: While reviewing the action! functions, I noticed the path action. 
The doc comment says "Path selection.". The parameters aren't typed. 
Does anyone know what this action does, and how to use it? Or whether 
it can be or should be called directly at all?


A: the PATH action is what the interpreter uses to evaluate VALUE/selector 
expressions for each datatype. It is an internal action and has no 
external purpose in programs. These kinds of words often appear as 
a sort of "side-effect" from how REBOL is structured.  Datatypes 
are implemented as a sort of object class, where the interpreter 
"sends messages" to the class to evaluate expressions. The PATH action 
is a message that tells the datatype to perform a pick-like or poke-like 
internal function.


Q: Is rebcode going to support paths and/or some kind of binding?


A: Certain rebcode can support anything we feel is important to put 
into it, but note: many things we add could slow it down, by a lot. 
 For example, if we were to allow paths as variables, I estimate 
that rebcode would be about two times slower than it is now.  Perhaps 
one way to solve this issue is for you to use COMPOSE prior to specifying 
your rebcode body.  Within the compose, you can use IN object 'word 
to "pre-compute" the context references for words. For example:

    add.i (in object 'num) 10


Your question about binding is not clear to me. Rebcode already supports 
binding. Your rebcode can be part of an object context, and rebcode 
function words are bound to the code context.  (Perhaps you are referring 
to an older bug that has since been fixed?)



Q: What do you think about  http://mail.rebol.net/maillist/msgs/39493.html
? Why not say a word in your blog, if you think that it's interessant 
for rebol developpment, and if you want to contact them ?


A: Recently, I had the chance to sit down and talk with one of the 
main people from the One Laptop Per Child project (he is a friend 
of mine from Apple Computer days).  The project has an interesting 
goal, but there are also many difficult issues around it (not just 
in the technical side, but also on the social and cultural sides). 
My current understanding is that the target software is Smalltalk 
based. Yes, it would be very interesting to allow REBOL on that system, 
but if you look at the list of principals for the project, you will 
see that such a revolution is unlikely.  Is it possible that perhaps 
REBOL could provide some additional capability in the future? I think 
so. We have some special plans that I think will bring REBOL to platforms 
like that in the future. But, this is too early to say more.



Q: 1. What is fixed/added in 2.6.2/1.3.2 (change-log, please) ? 2. 
What is planned for 1.4.0 (rebcode, rebservices, rich-text, RIF, 
and last but not least, fixed sound ...) ? 3. When can we expect 
1.4.0 ? Thanks.


A: 1. Gregg is preparing a summary. The document should be available 
this week. 2. We are evaluating a large variety of changes in REBOL, 
more than even the 1.4 release that we've talked about.  I hope to 
be able to say more about these plans soon.

All in one zip: (MS word only untill now incude some bug fixes)
• Add a Formatted Table to a Word Document.
• Add a Picture to a Microsoft Word Document.
• Add Formatted Text to a Word Document.
• Append Text to a Word Document.
• Apply a Style to a Table in a Word Document.
• Create a New Word Document.
• Create and Save a Word Document.
• Open and Print a Word Document.
• Save a Microsoft Word Document as an HTML File.
Download from:
http://www.geocities.com/benjaminmaggi/data/COMLib_Word_exmp.zip

The Speech Reco software is the one that comes built-in with Windows 
XP and Windows Vista (BTW, speech reco in Vista is much better than 
in XP). It analyzes widgets on the screen by running through all 
the windows handles (just about everything on a Windows screen is 
a window) and their labels, so it actually knows there's a menubar 
with a file menu on it so you can do things like say "Menu" "File" 
"Open" and it simply works for almost all native apps. It sends the 
equivalent commands by sending Windows messages to the windows. Problem 
is, since Rebol widgets do not have their own handles, the system 
never finds them, doesn't know they're there or that messages can 
be sent to them...

How can I set the current directory as the active one when I create 
an XLS object with COMLib? At the moment I need to provide fully-qualified-filenames 
to open a file.

But I can see in the word-open-save.r demo I have done this:

	do/args %../COMLib.r [
		...

  word_doc: GetObject [word_obj ".Documents.Open(%s)" to-local-file 
  clean-path %demos/word-open.doc]

hmm, I found the section: sqlite-open to-file port/target ..... now 
just to interpret it :-)

oh, I found the solution for the path problem. As I expected, the 
library needs path in filesystem friendly way. Just add to-local-files 
into sqlite-open function, so it should read as: sqlite3/open to-string 
to-local-file name tmp: make struct!

re:solution for the path problem. Was that for Cal's version? Problem 
occurs earlier than that in the 'open function with this line:

	port/locals/dbid: sqlite-open to-file port/target


asport/target contains only the file name regardless of what path 
you specify!

Yep, wish I had read your message earler. ;)


The 'open func sets port/target to a string of the file name and 
port/path to a string of the path (empty if none). So you just need 
to replace the sqlite-open in the 'open func with:
 
	port/locals/dbid: sqlite-open to-file join port/path port/target

as Anton stated above.

Oops, that should be:


 port/locals/dbid: sqlite-open to-file either port/path [join port/path 
 port/target] [port/target]


as port/path contains none! when no path is provided. On that note, 
anyone know why port/path and port/target are set to string! not 
file! ?

As I mentioned near the beginning of this thread, SQLite supports 
multiple database files each containing one or more tables - in fact 
they go so far as recommending that you separate multiple high-access 
tables out into different databases for concurrency reasons. In this 
sense, SQLite "databases" act more like traditional "tablespaces". 
So, if we wanted we could write our REBOL front-end so that it created/accessed 
each table in a database of the same name thus ensuring a one-to-one 
mapping between table names and database names. The advantages of 
this approach are:

	backups (only those tables that change need be backed up)

 external table administration (you can drop a table by deleting its 
 database file)

 concurrency (you spread your file locking across a greater number 
 of physical files)

Disadvantages:


 Administering your database is more cumbersome (you can't use the 
 sqlite3 admin tool to administer all tables in one session)

 Value of sqlite_master is diminished (you can't "select * from sqlite_master" 
 to report on all your tables in one query)

 Query references need to add a database prefix when referring to 
 a table not in their own database

 Name conflicts (all tables in one file means multiple databases can 
 use the same table names - the solution with multiple files would 
 be to segregate at the directory level)

 Multiple database files means you need to zip them prior to some 
 operations such as email attachment, etc


On balance, I actually prefer the one file / one database approach.


Pekr's other comments in relation to schema implementation also have 
merit (I've agreed with Pekr twice today - a new record!); I see 
the value of an ftp schema, an http schema, etc; but what value in 
a sqlite schema? Given that the entire schema can be written in a 
much more concise fashion as an anonymous context that exports a 
couple of key access functions to the global context; I can't see 
what the functional differences between the two implementations would 
be?


So, bar any good reasons to the contrary, these are the features 
of the implementation I am currently working on (a rough design spec 
if you like):

	Implemented as an anonymous context

 "Database" is a directory (which is specified when a database is 
 opened with 'open-db)

 Each table resides in a "tablespace" (aka SQLite database file) of 
 the same name
	File is automatically opened on first reference

 The /blocked refinement of 'db-open specifies that rows will be returned 
 in their own block (default is a single block of values)

 Non-numeric values (which SQLite stores natively as INTEGER and REAL) 
 will be subject to 'mold/all on insert and 'load on retrieval

 The /native refinement of 'open-db will turn this behaviour off (see 
 comments below)

 SQLite binding will be supported allowing statements such as ["insert 
 into table values (?,?,?)" 1 [bob-:-mail-:-com] "Some text"] and ["select 
 * from table where email = ?" [bob-:-mail-:-com]]


Whether to store values (including string!) as molded values in SQLite 
is an interesting question; on the one hand it gives you transparent 
storage and access to REBOL values – but at the performance cost 
of having to mold and load every TEXT value returned; and the storage 
cost of the overhead of a molded representation. On the other hand, 
if I only want to store numbers and strings anyway then I don't want 
this overhead. I think the only practical solution is a /native type 
option as detailed above.

I've given up on the one table per database idea as the default attachment 
limit is 10 files. On the positive side, the ATTACH command seems 
to work properly under 3.0+ and table names unique to an attached 
database do not have to be prefixed in queries. ;) My 'connect function:

>> help connect
USAGE:
    CONNECT database /create /attach databases /blocked /direct

DESCRIPTION:
     Open a SQLite database.
     CONNECT is a function value.

ARGUMENTS:
     database -- (Type: file url)

REFINEMENTS:
     /create -- Create database if non-existent

     /attach -- Attach up to 10 databases (of type file!) to this connection
         databases -- Database files (Type: block)
     /blocked -- Return each row as a block
     /direct -- Do not mold/load REBOL values

lets you do this:


 connect/attach %/c/app/data/system.db [%/c/app/data/users.db %/c/app/data/reports.db]
	sql "select * from a-system-table"
	sql "select * from a-user-table"
	sql "select * from a-report-table"


which could be quite useful in many situations. The default, however, 
is now one database.


BTW, my rewrite (even after adding a lot more functionality) is about 
twice as fast as the original protocol version.

1) why did you name somehow not traditionally functions as connect 
and disconnect?


open and close are already taken and I wanted to avoid pathing (sqlite/open) 
or prefixes (sqlite-open) as the number of words added to the global 
context is relatively few and I wanted them to be meaningful words 
in their own right (same reason why VID doesn't have vid-layout, 
vid-center-face, etc). Connect and disconnect are the commands used 
to login/logout of another user in many databases; so while the context 
is not strictly correct, they are recognisable DB words.

2) why can't we support multiple name-spaces?


You can via the connect/attach refinement (and this lets you transparently 
reference tables across multiple "databases"). Why would you want 
to concurrently access multiple databases that are *not* related 
to each other in any way?

3) can we have opened only one db at a time?


Yes, bar /attach as above. The benefit of this approach is that you 
minimise the number of file locks a single process obtains, and you 
don't have to track state information (i.e. you don't need to tell 
'sql which DB you are referring to).


4) Would it also be possible to extend e.g. 'headings to return non-string 
 values?

No, as it may contain strings like "count(*)"

5) don't agree with exposing functions as you did


I tend to write CONNECT, SQL, etc in upper-case so db references 
embedded in my code stand out. Come up with a better naming scheme 
that everyone likes though and I'll adopt it. ;)

sqlite open command expects a fully qualified local file name ... 
the line in question prepends the supplied file name with current 
dir unless the file name is in fact a path.

I am trying to analyse few sendmail logs. Our admin sent me three 
files. The first one, has those small boxes instead of newlines, 
you know it, when you try to open linux file under windows

rebview cl-sqlite.r


Any idea why I'm getting this (using Ubuntu and Ashley's sqlite.r): 
Script Error: Library error: libsqlite3.so: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
** Near: *lib: load/library switch/default fourth system/version
>>

Ashley, I just remembered that you can't call CONNECT/CREATE several 
times in one application. It gives the error "Database already connected" 
even if you use different file names.


To open more than one database file you have to use the sql ATTACH 
command starting from the 2nd database file.

well, but at some point, you open-up that partition in order to be 
able to access it. The security is not there anymore. What I would 
like to have is direct SQLite low-level encryption, so that file 
might be visible to FS, but still encrypted. And your app provides 
password or something like that ... IIRC BrianH is using some such 
solution, I just don't remember its name.

Well, the dialect doesn't take PS as input, it produces PS. A PS 
file can be printed from REBOL in a way, Graham showed. Like:
>> port: open/direct tcp://192.168.1.253:9100
>> insert port read %boys-0-36-length-weight.ps
>> close port


192.168.1.253 is the IP of the printer, 9100 is the port, where the 
printer get data.

Without prompting the user, cookies and JavaScript. Perhaps REBOL 
could prompt for any additional files it needed to access using a 
standard file open dialog (by standard I mean native).

Extra Security, some thoughts:
- 'secure for ips, eg: secure [net ask tcp://rebol.com allow]
- don't share sandbox-folders between hosts.
- if possible memory-restriction, hd, cpu?
- clipboard-restriction somehow?

- check for memory-access, specially disable struct! . IMO real hackers 
will figure out how to inject code by poke. 

- reblets can store executable code by naming the file *.exe. Does 
not run immediate, but script can open folder in explorer by browse, 
and one wrong click runs it. (or is windows smarter now? Maybe you 
could add an own extension always, and maybe store everything as 
64#{} ?

- Make sure untrusted reblets don't run invisible, can snoop clipboard, 
or at least users online-times. I guess creatives can find other 
uses.

- Maybe some kind of log about starts/stops, with urls? To have a 
little chance of tracking. Some kind of global console.
- Running out of thoughts for now.

Okay, writing the html file in the sandbox folder worked.  In my 
case, the path to the .r file was C:\Documents and Settings\Brock\Local 
Settings\Temp\REBOL\Plugin\Mozilla\0\public\localhost.  When I placed 
the .html file in the \localhost folder, the html file errored saying 
"Cannot open /C/Documents and Settings/Brock/Local Settings/Temp/REBOL/Plugin/Mozilla/0/wt-selector-2.r", 
so I added the missing part of the physical URL "\public\localhost" 
to the .html file and it works just fine

Reichart: Actually, when I click on a .r file for download and press 
"Open", it launches View but doesn't open the file. Why? I have no 
idea. It looks like two things need to happen:

 1. Download should not trigger Open or Save -- this can be accomplished 
 by registering a MIME-Type handler upon EXE install.

 2. It should actually open the file -- maybe the EXE's not picking 
 up on the Open request for some reason.


These are legitmate issues, but they all relate to the REBOL EXE. 
I'm sorry, but it's just not my area. You'll have to pass this feedback 
along to Carl or whoever owns the Windows EXE development for R3.0.

Lets come back to my original statement "I can't wait to be able 
to click on a ".r" file and have it just pop up and go."


You seem to be getting side tracked with assumptions or something.


Q: Reichart: Actually, when I click on a .r file for download and 
press "Open", it launches View but doesn't open the file. Why? I 
have no idea. It looks like two things need to happen:


A: And what should happen, and what 60-90 people will expect to happen 
if this is to be "part of the web" is that it does exactly what Flash 
did (which is now part of FF), and most other plug-ins do, which 
is ask you if you want to install a Rebol plug in.


If the person says yes, then it does its thing, goes back to the 
original .R file, and pulls it in and runs it.


If you are a nerd, you can go screw with your settings to make it 
first ask you if you want to:
O View source 
O Run now


Q: These are legitmate issues, but they all relate to the REBOL EXE. 
I'm sorry, but it's just not my area. 
A: No, it seems this is 100% the plug-in. 


Let me ask a different "set" of questions that might make this all 
easier?


When will we all be able to click on a ".r" file (and by .r I mean 
a link that is actually a wrapper with all the crap needed to know 
what to do), and it will ask you to install the plug-in, handle all 
that crap, and it will go back and get the .r file and run it?

launches View but doesn't open the file

 here it launches, IIRc it did that immediate without me setting something 
 (now i prefer editor by  default, so cant check).

and by .r I mean a link that is actually a wrapper with all the crap 
needed to know what to do

 AFAK that is some html-markup, not *.r-created. On IE the plugin 
 installs automatically, on firefox that will come.

And plugins and mime are two things, plugins run inside the browser 
and need some marku (AFAIK), mime-types are launched by  external 
apps (rebol if the server says its application/x-rebol)

To simplify the issue, let me pose a scneario. Joe has a fresh copy 
of XP, no REBOL nothing. He clicks on a .r file. You want the plugin 
to install itself and open the .r file inside the browser window. 
Am I understanding your goal?

To simplify the issue, let me pose a scneario. Joe has a fresh copy 
of XP, no REBOL nothing. He clicks on a .r file. You want the plugin 
to install itself and open the .r file inside the browser window. 
Am I understanding your goal?


No, I want it wrapped.  The ".r" is simply a reference point, since 
we don't have a word for a Rebol executable script.  Want to call 
it ".rrs" (Rebol run script) or something?  Flash calls theirs SWF, 
FLV, etc.

Other thing, however, is - how far we go? Thinking in that manner, 
we can easily end up with conclusion, that we should use ONLY browser 
networking capabilities - once again - that is not rebol for anymore. 
On one hand, we would like browsers SSL to be used (imo only because 
rebol itself is badly missing here), on other hand - who wants to 
give-up rebol networking? I can understand it eventually makes sense 
security wise, as who wants your plug-in to open tcp listen port 
on your machine? I see it imediatelly as similar problem to local 
file storage (although eventually catched by firewall)

Here's a few components of Trusted Scripts (this is only a draft 
-- open for feedback):
	* Default security model is tight -- how tight is TBD.

 * Developers that want to take advantage of Trusted Scripts, i.e. 
 to lower security for a production app, first must buy a license.key 
 from RT.

 * license.key unlocks  "features" and "permissions". Features are 
 things like encryption within the script. Permissions include file 
 sandbox, domain restrictions, dll loading permissions, etc.

 * license.key will contain contact info, so we can track down the 
 author of a malicious signed script if necessary.

new release of liquid: 

to download the file:          http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=liquid.r

for some docs on liquid:   http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/steel/liquid/index.html

## Error in [task-handler] :Make object! [
code: 500
type: 'access
id: 
'cannot-open
arg1: "/Volumes/data/che/Cheyenne/handlers/RSP.r"
arg2: 
none
arg3: none
near: [do load file]
where: 'do-cache
] !
REBOL Internal 
Error: #415

Program terminated abnormally.
This should never happen.
Contact 
www.REBOL.com with details.

if you're using the odbc:// driver, like all RT's DB drivers, it 
requires a : first db-port to open the connection port, so you have 
to change the do-sql source a little bit (in %handler/RSP.r file), 
in do-sql source :

If you want to try this method for windows.. here's what you do.. 


1) download the windows binary from openssl.. ->   http://www.slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html

2) Unzip.. and pull out the openssl.exe file from the bin folder.. 
. drop that file into your cheyenne www folder
3) Create a self-signed cert....
3a) run openssl.exe

3b) enter this line: req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:1024 
-keyout localhost.pem -out localhost.pem
(localhost is the cert name)

3c) answer the questions... when asked 'who are you?' enter your 
domain,  or 'localhost' as I did 

This will generate the cert in your www folder (this is just a demo... 
the openssl server uses it's location as root www folder)

4) Start up the server... enter this line into openssl:  s_server 
-accept 443 -cert localhost.pem -WWW


Now open any file in your Cheyenne www folder using the https:// 
 protocol

try it in REBOL console, download and save the tiff file and try 
to open it to verify that your image is ok.

there was even an image viewer plugin for Windows which would inadvertently 
clear the data whenever you would read pics off you camera!! hehe 
talk about incompetency!  yep, the plugin would open the file read-write, 
seek up till the end of the image data and close the file... which 
would then truncate it  :-) hahahaha

He said Unicode is three separate issues:
1: getting strings into REBOL
2: a REBOL unicode datatype
3: interfaces to operating systems -- eg for file names.

The first two he said are easy. The third, he needs help on. But, 
as it wll be part of the Open Source 3.0 Opsys interface, it does 
not need to be done by RT.

Graham, there's some info here about default browser in the registry:

http://newoldthing.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/how-does-your-browsers-know-that-its-not-the-default-browser/


It's not only the file-type, it seems, but also per protocol. Try 
check for example HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT/HTTP/shell/open/command and such.